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Offline Stryke 9

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Reply #240 on: November 13, 2003, 10:21:39 pm
Levy: From the fact that they specify that it's a simulation of New York in the first Matrix. From the fact that everything, absolutely everything, occurs somewhere in or immediately around Manhattan Island. From the fact that nowhere do they even mention the concept of non-New Yorkers, except when specifically referring to the people in Zion or whatever. You're gonna tell me that they've got an entire planet there, but they just happened to cluster everything of any even potential significance at all in a ten-square-mile area? That the Oracle and Whatsisname just happened to land in this one place? It'd be a terrible stretch to say there's anything else out there- and it's a concept the movie ignores entirely.
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Reply #241 on: November 13, 2003, 10:27:14 pm
We know for a fact that there's more space, in Reloaded Neo ended up in some mountains that were 60 miles, or something to that effect, away.
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Reply #242 on: November 13, 2003, 10:33:27 pm
Ah. Didn't see that bit, don't think.
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Reply #243 on: November 13, 2003, 11:09:22 pm
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That the Oracle and Whatsisname just happened to land in this one place? It'd be a terrible stretch to say there's anything else out there- and it's a concept the movie ignores entirely.

dude, remeber, the oracle can reach anywere through the back doors. And neo and gang can jack in to any place they want, the mountains or lower manhattan...
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Reply #244 on: November 14, 2003, 12:25:55 am
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Levy: From the fact that they specify that it's a simulation of New York in the first Matrix. From the fact that everything, absolutely everything, occurs somewhere in or immediately around Manhattan Island. From the fact that nowhere do they even mention the concept of non-New Yorkers, except when specifically referring to the people in Zion or whatever. You're gonna tell me that they've got an entire planet there, but they just happened to cluster everything of any even potential significance at all in a ten-square-mile area? That the Oracle and Whatsisname just happened to land in this one place? It'd be a terrible stretch to say there's anything else out there- and it's a concept the movie ignores entirely.


Except in Matrix 1 in the news paper there is an article about Morphus ditching the police in london.  And if you watch the director (or who ever) talk about the movie the guy says that the city is not meant to be any city, just a big general one.
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Reply #245 on: November 14, 2003, 04:08:42 am
Hmmmm. The film ends when the main good guy and main bad guy fly up into the air and fight each other. Where have I seen that before?

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Reply #246 on: November 14, 2003, 05:58:11 am
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Reply #247 on: November 14, 2003, 06:21:36 am
I loved the Matrix: Revolutions. Sure, the dialogue was canned and cliched, but the action....whoa.
 

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Reply #248 on: November 14, 2003, 06:57:47 am
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Well, I don't see why animals wouldn't be in the same situation as humans. They still generate heat and power, so they would also be useful to the machines.


It wouldn't be as ironic. ;)
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Reply #249 on: November 14, 2003, 08:48:16 am
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From the fact that they specify that it's a simulation of New York in the first Matrix.

No, they don't.
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
From the fact that everything, absolutely everything, occurs somewhere in or immediately around Manhattan Island.

No, it doesn't.
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From the fact that nowhere do they even mention the concept of non-New Yorkers

Yes, they do.

So, there.
 

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Reply #250 on: November 14, 2003, 08:55:36 am
New York is known, at least to the people there, as The Center of The Universe.

Why shouldn't everything that happens in The Matrix, happen there? Where would you prefer? Paris? Washington DC?
 

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Reply #251 on: November 14, 2003, 09:12:33 am
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We know for a fact that there's more space, in Reloaded Neo ended up in some mountains that were 60 miles, or something to that effect, away.
If by 60 you mean 6000, then yes. Wasn't he in the Swiss Alps?
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Reply #252 on: November 14, 2003, 09:14:55 am
i thought Link said Neo was 500 miles to the southeast or something
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Reply #253 on: November 14, 2003, 09:32:43 am
I don't actually remember. Ok, here we are:
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Neo: Oh ****.
Link: Operator.
Neo: Link, where am I?
Link: You're not gonna believe this, but you're all the way up in the mountains.
Neo: Really.
Link: Yeah, it's gonna take me a while to get up an exit. Oh ****.
Neo: What?
Link: Those Twin things are after Morpheus and Trinity, and I don't have a way to get them out.
Neo: Where are they?
Link: Middle of the City, 500 miles due south.

Hmm. For some reason I thought he was on the other side of the planet. Oh well, it's still far, far outside New York.
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Reply #254 on: November 14, 2003, 10:17:56 am
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Hmm. For some reason I thought he was on the other side of the planet.


 Probably cause the real castle they used for the shot was from the other side of the planet :D
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Reply #255 on: November 14, 2003, 01:42:50 pm
Maybe Matrix-Earth is only 500 miles in diameter!
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Reply #256 on: November 14, 2003, 04:35:52 pm
That would provide an even better explanation for why they can defy gravity...  there's less of it...
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Reply #257 on: November 14, 2003, 04:54:41 pm
Or they could just be in a computer world...:rolleyes:

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Reply #258 on: November 14, 2003, 06:14:12 pm
So what you're saying is that Neo went to Canada, Zylon.
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Reply #259 on: November 14, 2003, 07:17:31 pm
Either Canada or some other place 500 miles north of a random major city.
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