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Offline The E

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Just saw the Halo reference in the Carthage wiki entry. :) Is that an R2 mission or is it set before R1? I ask since it's around Neptune.

"ONI" is not a Halo reference :P

And yes, it's a mission from R2.
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Offline Destiny

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Last time the Imperieuse was damaged, it was expected to retreat back to DS. However, DE has showed that the Tevs are more than able to repair such a ship on field, and in total secrecy to boot. I don't know how long it took though.
I'd say with the Vasudans going into full gear with logistics support...the Imperieuse must've jumped somewhere deep, maybe even further than Pluto, then put an AWACS on two (Remember the GTA Spectre before the Pegasus fighters splashed the Elder?) nearby. Plus, the UEF didn't have the resources to go find the Imperieuse, let alone try attacking it...oh and, damn Auroras.

 

Offline Buckshee Rounds

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Just saw the Halo reference in the Carthage wiki entry. :) Is that an R2 mission or is it set before R1? I ask since it's around Neptune.

"ONI" is not a Halo reference :P

And yes, it's a mission from R2.

Hot damn, R2 is gonna be sweet! And what does ONI stand for then?

Last time the Imperieuse was damaged, it was expected to retreat back to DS. However, DE has showed that the Tevs are more than able to repair such a ship on field, and in total secrecy to boot. I don't know how long it took though.
I'd say with the Vasudans going into full gear with logistics support...the Imperieuse must've jumped somewhere deep, maybe even further than Pluto, then put an AWACS on two (Remember the GTA Spectre before the Pegasus fighters splashed the Elder?) nearby. Plus, the UEF didn't have the resources to go find the Imperieuse, let alone try attacking it...oh and, damn Auroras.

Which has got me thinking; how far away from a sun's gravity well can a capital ship jump?

  

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Offline General Battuta

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Office of Naval intelligence, too

 

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Office of Naval intelligence, too

You ninja'd my edit! :shaking:
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Offline Destiny

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Which has got me thinking; how far away from a sun's gravity well can a capital ship jump?
Not too sure...does it even apply? I mean, we were quite far away from anything in High Noob, and we know nothing about the mysterious nebula beyond Gamma Draconis - GTVA Colossus intro...

 

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I guess the nebula did still have a neutron star or some other star remnant, with enough gravity to hold the nodes together, inside. God I hope this isn't going to spawn another four pages debate among some hardcore astronomers :p

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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IIRC we definitely see a star ingame in those missions. Problem solved.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the star in the nebula a Mediavps addition? I don't recall seeing it at all in retail (which was a long ass time ago, so my memory is probably screwing with me.)

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the star in the nebula a Mediavps addition? I don't recall seeing it at all in retail (which was a long ass time ago, so my memory is probably screwing with me.)
I'm quite sure it was a retail thing.

 
Aight, nevermind then. Did Someone turn up the brightness then? Because I certainly don't remember being near blinded every time I turned the wrong direction while in the nebula.

 

Offline Mars

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Restaf perhaps, flying in new fighters (especially if they come together with the pilots) no problem, but what about repairs?
I doubt the facilities the GTVA has inside Sol are going to get the Carthage battle-ready as fast as those in Delta Serpentis. So a few weeks pause in DS are very likely I think.

Remember, they have all of the Jovian facilities now - which appears to include some serious resources. Combined with existing logistics ships and damage control facilities, I assume it wouldn't be a miracle to repair some pretty banged up ships.

However, now that the Carthage's battlegroup has been quite crippled (all ships heavily battle-damaged, fighter complement nullified, one corvette and one cruiser captured), I'd expect it to be rotated for a new one soon enough.

Well, assuming that the all of the ships weren't destroyed, those are losses that many in the GTVA are "used" to taking. I assume counseling and psychological services have gotten better.

 

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Since you technically CAN destroy all/most of those ships (simply by disabling their engines before they flee), I don't expect WiH2 to consider they are still alive. The Carthage will have to be rotated for a new battlegroup or get a truckload of new warships to replace the losses, whether the losses really happened in WiH or not.
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Offline Mars

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Since you technically CAN destroy all/most of those ships (simply by disabling their engines before they flee), I don't expect WiH2 to consider they are still alive. The Carthage will have to be rotated for a new battlegroup or get a truckload of new warships to replace the losses, whether the losses really happened in WiH or not.
I think you're probably right, although I doubt you'll read anything about a true massacre.

Deimos corvettes seem to be pretty replaceable though, which is odd. Back in FS2 Sobeks were said to have 6,000 crew, so you'd think command would get pretty worked up over even the loss of a Deimos.

 

Offline Destiny

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Well since ships always explode even if you shoot a beam and destroy a Deimos even though it was only the turret that got hit...the GTD Legion is one exception, though. It makes no sense, but it's for the game, you'd rather see a Fenris explode into a giant fireball by a fighter-mounted xaser gun than watch it do nothing. Hard to think realistically when they keep happening, the entire crew dead because the furthest part of the ship was hit by a beam that cauterized that part, yet magically the ship still explodes.
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[16:57] <CommanderDJ> What prompted the decision to split WiH into acts?
[16:58] <battuta> it was long, we wanted to release something
[16:58] <battuta> it felt good to have a target to hit
[17:00] <RangerKarl> not sure if talking about strike mission, or jerking off
[17:00] <CommanderDJ> WUT
[17:00] <CommanderDJ> hahahahaha
[17:00] <battuta> hahahaha
[17:00] <RangerKarl> same thing really, if you think about it

 
Its far too accurate to be funny for me, unfortunately.

 

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Deimos corvettes seem to be pretty replaceable though, which is odd. Back in FS2 Sobeks were said to have 6,000 crew, so you'd think command would get pretty worked up over even the loss of a Deimos.
Deimoses are the new cruisers, read the tech description. Those things use Capella-era technology yet are extremely useful and well-designed, and hence are cheap, easy to maintain and repair, and have been mass-produced since Capella.

Hard to think realistically when they keep happening, the entire crew dead because the furthest part of the ship was hit by a beam that cauterized that part, yet magically the ship still explodes.
Unless there was a reactor or something similarly fragile and susceptible to blow up on that part.
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Offline Mars

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Deimoses are the new cruisers, read the tech description. Those things use Capella-era technology yet are extremely useful and well-designed, and hence are cheap, easy to maintain and repair, and have been mass-produced since Capella.

Oh, I did, I just think the crew numbers are still a little high, unless they've been revised.