[DahBlount]

I'm not sure if anyone noticed this but many of the ships, mostly large, non-fighter/bomber ships, don't have new skins under the 3.6.12 MVPs. Are there plans to edit the skins of say, the Sathanas and Colossus, as well as the Rakshasa class cruisers and many others? Also is there any plan to possibly edit the FS1 skins as well?

[yuezhi]

it exists

[DahBlount]

WHY DO I NOT HAVE THIS IT LOOKS AMAZING!!!

[Mars]

lol, check out the Freespace Upgrade Project forums, read the sticky threads. Beauty is more than skin deep.

[Phantom Hoover]

There have been a lot of new models made since the last MVPs were released, you're just expected to pick through them and manually install them by hand if you want to actually see them in-game.

[seraphuriel]

Holy Satanas! I guess they will all be released in mediavps 14 and so it is worth waiting?

[Mars]

Well, a lot of these new models are available now at no cost to you but the thirty or so minutes it will take to download them. . . so I guess if your time is really scarce it could be?

[seraphuriel]

Downloading should not be a problem nowadays
Where can i find them? You described, but im kinda new to this forum. Maybe you can offer a link please?

[Arpit]

This is the closest I can give comparing the screenshot of the Sathanas. 

[Phantom Hoover]

Well, a lot of these new models are available now at no cost to you but the thirty or so minutes it will take to download them. . . so I guess if your time is really scarce it could be?

Downloading time isn't the issue, it's the time needed to learn how FSO and the MVPs arrange assets and how to override that with whatever's been distributed for a given upgrade. The idea that this is convenient, quick or easy for newbies to learn is, frankly, a convenient fantasy.

[The E]

Downloading time isn't the issue, it's the time needed to learn how FSO and the MVPs arrange assets and how to override that with whatever's been distributed for a given upgrade. The idea that this is convenient, quick or easy for newbies to learn is, frankly, a convenient fantasy.

Yo, PH, can you be a bit more constructive and a LOT less passive-aggressive? kthxbai

[Crybertrance]

I have to agree with The_E there... PH... is it that difficult for you to be constructive?? Granted, that "optional goodies" installation process is a bit not noob-friendly, but you are sure as hell not being helpful to the situation at hand... 

[X3N0-Life-Form]

Alright, I'm uploading some of my .vp packed nu models, that should make the installing part a bit easier.

[DahBlount]

I did not mean for all this to happen.

Alright, I'm uploading some of my .vp packed nu models, that should make the installing part a bit easier.

Thanks give us a link when you are done.

In other news, can anyone tell me what software people use to make these godly textures, skins, and models? I think I may want to get into it myself.

[Shivan Hunter]

I did not mean for all this to happen.

You're fine lol, arguments about release dates are commonplace on HLP

To make models, Wings3d is free, good, and relatively simple to use. Once a model is done, you open it up in PCS2 (POF Constructor Suite 2), set some things like subsystems and glowpoints, and save as a POF, FS's model format.

Wings can;t export everything a FS model needs, such as hierarchy (subobjects and parent objects), so I usually have to go therough Blender for that. Blender... takes some getting used to. Some people use it for all their modelling needs because it's incredibly powerful.

To make textures, Gimp is free and as good as Photoshop is once you get used to the interface. Gimp can save as TGA which FS can use as a texture, but for final releases people usually use ATI's Compressionator or Nvidia's nvdxt to compress in a DDS format. (I'm doing that now, actually )

[Arpit]

To make textures, Gimp is free and as good as Photoshop is once you get used to the interface. Gimp can save as TGA which FS can use as a texture, but for final releases people usually use ATI's Compressionator or Nvidia's nvdxt to compress in a DDS format. (I'm doing that now, actually )

There IS a DDS plugin for GIMP. I have used it so I am pretty sure that you can do the compression in GIMP.

[DahBlount]

Thanks all that helps, especially since I already have Blender (Used it to make little random models of things that struck my interest, mainly guns/weapons). The main problem being weaning myself off of using background pictures as guides and just going with it. There is so much I want to do like make a campaign and model my own ships and such.

Also, someone gave me the finished Arcadia pack, do I just extract it to the MVP 3.6.12 folder?

>I did this and didn't see the files so I tried re-extracting it and found the files where just hidden and waiting to be put in as caches, so I guess in the future to just extract to the MVP folder?

[DahBlount]

And has anyone else noticed the different animals the Sathanas has parts from? I made a picture marking the locations and descriptions if you guys wanna see it.

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[Arpit]

Thanks all that helps, especially since I already have Blender (Used it to make little random models of things that struck my interest, mainly guns/weapons). The main problem being weaning myself off of using background pictures as guides and just going with it. There is so much I want to do like make a campaign and model my own ships and such.

Also, someone gave me the finished Arcadia pack, do I just extract it to the MVP 3.6.12 folder?

>I did this and didn't see the files so I tried re-extracting it and found the files where just hidden and waiting to be put in as caches, so I guess in the future to just extract to the MVP folder?

Who's that someone? 

Anyways when you extract the pack there must be a folder called 'Arcadia'. In that folder there must be two sub-folders like this:

-data
-lowres01

Put the 'data' folder as it-is in the mediavps folder. (If Windows Explorer asks you to merge with an existing folder then merge.)
Done. 

As for the 'lowres01' folder, if you are having slowdowns then move the files within the folder (There are 4 DDS textures in lower resolution.) in mediavps_3612/data/maps folder. 

As for making campaigns and models, there are many tutorials available (including video tutorials) on the forums as well as wiki. Have you given them a try? 

[Rodo]

Really? I always pictured the Sathanas as some kind of BIG bug, a big ass bug.